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		<title>By: [分享]The details and summary elements &#171; NeverBest!我还能做的更好 &#8211; 007boy &#124; im007boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>[分享]The details and summary elements &#171; NeverBest!我还能做的更好 &#8211; 007boy &#124; im007boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hello, summary and figcaption elements [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce Lawson</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-10034</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon- it depends on the implementation. Nothing like this is required or forbidden by the specification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon- it depends on the implementation. Nothing like this is required or forbidden by the specification.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-10032</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the implementation include an automatic scroll down when the content is not visible in the viewport (only if the summary+details max height &lt; viewport height)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the implementation include an automatic scroll down when the content is not visible in the viewport (only if the summary+details max height &lt; viewport height)?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Boarman&#39;s dot com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The figure &#38; figcaption elements</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Boarman&#39;s dot com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The figure &#38; figcaption elements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] readers will know that a new element was recently introduced, namely &lt;figcaption&gt;. Who knows if it&#8217;ll stick, but for now here&#8217;s what the spec [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] readers will know that a new element was recently introduced, namely &lt;figcaption&gt;. Who knows if it&#8217;ll stick, but for now here&#8217;s what the spec [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New HTML5 elements: summary &#38; figcaption - Gurushala</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-2329</link>
		<dc:creator>New HTML5 elements: summary &#38; figcaption - Gurushala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] two new HTML elements: summary and figcaption were added to HTML5 project. The creation of these new elements to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alohci</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-2317</link>
		<dc:creator>Alohci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fjpoblam - The figcaption needs to be a direct child of figure. You can put the &lt;a&gt; tags outside the &lt;figure&gt; tags to achieve what you&#039;re trying to do in a valid way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fjpoblam &#8211; The figcaption needs to be a direct child of figure. You can put the &lt;a&gt; tags outside the &lt;figure&gt; tags to achieve what you&#8217;re trying to do in a valid way.</p>
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		<title>By: fjpoblam</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator>fjpoblam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably, I misunderstand the intent of &lt;figure&gt; and should be using &lt;section&gt; instead, as I see the W3 validator rejects what I&#039;m trying:

&lt;figure&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://[...rest of URL...]&quot;&gt;
&lt;img [...stuff...] &gt;
&lt;figcaption&gt;
[text]
&lt;/figcaption&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/figure&gt;

The W3 validator wants an &lt;a&gt; for the &lt;img&gt; and a separate &lt;a&gt; inside the &lt;figcaption&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably, I misunderstand the intent of &lt;figure&gt; and should be using &lt;section&gt; instead, as I see the W3 validator rejects what I&#8217;m trying:</p>
<p>&lt;figure&gt;<br />
&lt;a href=&#8221;http://[...rest of URL...]&#8220;&gt;<br />
&lt;img [...stuff...] &gt;<br />
&lt;figcaption&gt;<br />
[text]<br />
&lt;/figcaption&gt;<br />
&lt;/a&gt;<br />
&lt;/figure&gt;</p>
<p>The W3 validator wants an &lt;a&gt; for the &lt;img&gt; and a separate &lt;a&gt; inside the &lt;figcaption&gt;.</p>
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		<title>By: bractus</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-2276</link>
		<dc:creator>bractus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bruce

Do you have any document shows logic order of html5 tags? I mean shows what is the best practice using tags within each other.
For example, I saw a developer is using &lt;section first  and then &lt;article but others use vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruce</p>
<p>Do you have any document shows logic order of html5 tags? I mean shows what is the best practice using tags within each other.<br />
For example, I saw a developer is using &lt;section first  and then &lt;article but others use vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Lawson</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-2218</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoshS

my reading is same as yours. But I think that they way details is currently specified is enough for the 80% of authorial needs.</description>
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<p>my reading is same as yours. But I think that they way details is currently specified is enough for the 80% of authorial needs.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshS</title>
		<link>http://html5doctor.com/summary-figcaption-element/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I read the spec correctly, the summary tag is always visible, and everything else in the details tag is only visible when the open attribute is set. &lt;a href=&quot;http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-elements.html#the-details-element&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pillar Magazine Example&lt;/a&gt;

Assuming this is correct, I have some comments about the summary tag. The content model for the summary tag is phrasing content, which means it can only contain other phrasing content. 

What if you want to have more complex info in the summary. As an example, I&#039;m thinking about the Facebook Settings page. They have a setting heading, description and current value. When you show the &quot;details&quot; area, you see the edit fields (like the Pillar Magazine example, BUT some of the &quot;summary&quot; is not visible.

I can&#039;t see this working with summary as currently defined unless, summary is not phrasing content or if other child elements of the details element could be visible when it is &quot;closed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I read the spec correctly, the summary tag is always visible, and everything else in the details tag is only visible when the open attribute is set. <a href="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-elements.html#the-details-element" rel="nofollow">Pillar Magazine Example</a></p>
<p>Assuming this is correct, I have some comments about the summary tag. The content model for the summary tag is phrasing content, which means it can only contain other phrasing content. </p>
<p>What if you want to have more complex info in the summary. As an example, I&#8217;m thinking about the Facebook Settings page. They have a setting heading, description and current value. When you show the &#8220;details&#8221; area, you see the edit fields (like the Pillar Magazine example, BUT some of the &#8220;summary&#8221; is not visible.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see this working with summary as currently defined unless, summary is not phrasing content or if other child elements of the details element could be visible when it is &#8220;closed.&#8221;</p>
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